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« Reply #180 on: October 03, 2018, 05:36:10 PM »

I would probably go with either the fel pro 1008 or factory gasket which is about 0.40"  - might need thicker yet depending on deck height, piston to wall clearance and CR.
What would you CR be with that setup?

BUT it depends on your piston to cyl. wall clearance - if it is tight like the factory pistons (OEM specs (0.001-0.002") you can run as tight as 0.30 piston to head clearance but that is about the tightest, 0.40" would be safer.   MORE piston to cyl wall clearance will require slightly more piston to head clearance as the piston rocks at TDC and can hit the head.
I did find this, but it was about a small block chevy but most all wedge head engines are the same.

So now let’s introduce a tighter quench space into this equation. All of the respected engine builders who we’ve talked to are firm believers in minimizing the quench clearance. According to Ken Duttweiler, the tightest quench he recommends is around 0.050-inch. He has built engines with far tighter clearances than this, but much of this depends on the piston-to-wall clearance. All pistons tend to rock slightly as they transition through TDC and this rocking motion reduces the piston-to-head clearance. Smaller-diameter pistons with tight piston-to-wall clearances don’t rock nearly as much in the cylinder bore compared to larger-bore pistons with wider piston-to-wall clearances.
Since piston clearance plays such a big part in piston-to-head clearance, it is possible to run a piston-to-head clearance tighter than 0.040-inch if you feel brave. Noted horsepower hero John Lingenfelter says that clearances of 0.037 to 0.040 inch are possible, but you must know what you’re doing. The late Smokey Yunick also recommended a quench clearance of 0.040 inch as a safe but critical clearance.

My pistons came out to zero deck clearance.  The Machine shop recommended "at least" .050 thick head gaskets for this reason.

I'm probably gonna use Cometic head gaskets, I found some online that were .040 overbore and .051 thick.  Does this sound like the right gasket? Also Richard/HiPoTek can you get these? And what would compression be with this size gasket?

My other question is there a cheaper head gasket I can use for "Mock Up" with clay that is the same or close thickness to make sure I don't have Piston to valve clearance issues?  Or should I just spring for 2 sets of Cometic head gaskets.
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« Reply #181 on: October 03, 2018, 11:40:10 PM »

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My pistons came out to zero deck clearance.  The Machine shop recommended "at least" .050 thick head gaskets for this reason.

I'm probably gonna use Cometic head gaskets, I found some online that were .040 overbore and .051 thick.  Does this sound like the right gasket? Also Richard/HiPoTek can you get these? And what would compression be with this size gasket?

My other question is there a cheaper head gasket I can use for "Mock Up" with clay that is the same or close thickness to make sure I don't have Piston to valve clearance issues?  Or should I just spring for 2 sets of Cometic head gaskets.
Yes I can get the Cometic head gaskets.  The .051 is the compressed thickness.  Nothing beats using the actual material you are going to use but you might want to check the OEM gasket you removed for its compressed thickness.  It may be something around .054 but I don't remember off the top of my head. 
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« Reply #182 on: October 10, 2018, 05:40:05 PM »

The compressed thickness of my old "stock" head gasket is .044.
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« Reply #183 on: January 02, 2019, 06:14:19 PM »

I got the Cometic head gaskets from Hi-Potek/Richard and they look to be of high quality with quick shipping

I've had bad luck with sparkplug wires over the years dealing with Taylor Cable (made in mexico now) so I thought I'd try something different for this build.  I bought some B & B Manufacturing Corporation M8-58380 8mm wires, they are made in the USA and have very good reviews.  I also picked up some Autolight 3923 sparkplugs.

What do you guys think of these parts for my build?
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« Reply #184 on: January 03, 2019, 02:27:59 AM »

I tihink B&B is Billy Boat - former Indy Car driver?
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« Reply #185 on: January 03, 2019, 01:22:13 PM »

I got the Cometic head gaskets from Hi-Potek/Richard and they look to be of high quality with quick shipping

I've had bad luck with sparkplug wires over the years dealing with Taylor Cable (made in mexico now) so I thought I'd try something different for this build.  I bought some B & B Manufacturing Corporation M8-58380 8mm wires, they are made in the USA and have very good reviews.  I also picked up some Autolight 3923 sparkplugs.

What do you guys think of these parts for my build?
never heard of those wires before, the B&B ones,
I used a couple of sets of Taylor wires like 25 years ago when Super Shops were still around....  maybe 30 years ago. seemed OK at the time.
Now a days, I have been buying the high line Napa "wired for Life" ones.
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« Reply #186 on: January 03, 2019, 08:13:45 PM »

I tihink B&B is Billy Boat - former Indy Car driver?

 Im not sure.

I am also not sure of the Made in USA claim.  On their contact page their mailing address is Puerto Rico.  While Puerto Rico is a US territory and they pay income tax, it still seems weird.  Regardless if they look of good quality, I'll give them a shot.  I'd rather give my money to Puerto Rico than China or Mexico or any other country.

Here is their website:  http://bbmanufacturing.com/

What do you guys think of the Autolite 3923 spark plugs I picked out?
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« Reply #187 on: January 04, 2019, 01:13:12 AM »

Autolite 3923 has been a go-to Magnum plug for years, should be fine.
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