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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2018, 06:27:01 AM »

So the mopar pcm was 1 of the first things I did to the truck20 years ago, it was about $400 back then but well worth it. I took it off once and put the stock 1 back on to do a long road trip, boy it was like losing a cylinder or 2. But back to the fuel injectors and the fuel rail problem. I can make this work with a 1/2" spacer, but would rather not. I don,t want this getting too high because of the shaker hood setup. Can I get shorter injectors? And where can I source a different rail like 98Dak408 spoke of. I don,t know of anyone around here in British Columbia that can fab those up. Thanks for any suggetions.
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2018, 05:01:02 PM »

So the mopar pcm was 1 of the first things I did to the truck20 years ago, it was about $400 back then but well worth it. I took it off once and put the stock 1 back on to do a long road trip, boy it was like losing a cylinder or 2. But back to the fuel injectors and the fuel rail problem. I can make this work with a 1/2" spacer, but would rather not. I don,t want this getting too high because of the shaker hood setup. Can I get shorter injectors? And where can I source a different rail like 98Dak408 spoke of. I don,t know of anyone around here in British Columbia that can fab those up. Thanks for any suggetions.

Send 98Dak408 a private message by clicking on his username, he makes the fuel rails and can hook you up with the injectors you need.
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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2018, 07:32:24 AM »

I like the fact that there is no plenum gasket. Just wondering if it use,s the same gaskets as the stosk kegger?


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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2018, 05:18:28 PM »

Yes they are the same gaskets. 

RockAuto has the gasket set for $12.71 which includes the plenum gasket that you don't need. 

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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2018, 01:06:49 PM »

If you don't want a lot of expense and difficulty, sell the 4-bbl TB you have and use a bored throttle body such as a 52mm http://stores.hi-potek.com/hipotek-52mm-performance-throttle-body-machine-modified-dodge-jeep-5-2l-5-9l-v8-magnum-1996-03/ or 53mm http://stores.hi-potek.com/hipotek-53mm-performance-throttle-body-machine-modified-dodge-jeep-5-2l-5-9l-v8-magnum-1996-03/

 
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« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2018, 08:21:12 AM »

What expences do you think I will encounter? fuel rails, injectors am I missing something? I want to get this working. How much $$ are we talking for the parts. I,m pretty sure I will get the cables part figured out. Thanks for your help on this.
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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2018, 11:59:59 PM »

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What expences do you think I will encounter? fuel rails, injectors am I missing something? I want to get this working. How much $$ are we talking for the parts. I,m pretty sure I will get the cables part figured out. Thanks for your help on this.
If you're not trying to keep within certain racing class rules, you could use a spacer and the following fuel rails for instance, that mount to the bottom intake manifold bolts. http://stores.hi-potek.com/fuel-rails-6an-billet-aluminum-5-2-5-9-dodge-dakota-durango-ram-jeep-magnum-oem-barrel-intake-hughes-airgap-m1-2-bbl-m1-4-bbl/

Your spacer has to be tall enough for the throttle body linkage to clear the fuel rails.  You'd have to mock it up to determine the thickness of the spacer with the fuel rails in place.
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2018, 07:39:18 AM »

Thanks for the input98Dak408. I,m not going racing, just an old hotrodder. I have mocked it up and will need to use a 1/2" spacer with the stock fuel rails in place. I guess the shaker hood air box can be modified if it gets too high.
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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2018, 10:29:55 AM »

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Thanks for the input98Dak408. I,m not going racing, just an old hotrodder. I have mocked it up and will need to use a 1/2" spacer with the stock fuel rails in place. I guess the shaker hood air box can be modified if it gets too high.
I don’t think it’s going to be that easy or many people would be doing it that way.  You have to make sure your injectors and rails are straight in the manifold injector port (the injector port is angled inward toward the center at about a 13-degree angle) and chances are it will interfere with the linkage side of the throttle body with only a ½” spacer.   For instance, look how tall the spacer is for the OEM 2-bbl throttle body.  Mounting the stock fuel rail is going to be another problem, aside from hooking up your cables. How are you going to mount them solidly to the intake?  Also, your pic of the OEM fuel rail on the linkage side of the throttle body does not appear to be angled correctly as it needs to be and could result in a fuel leak. 

This isn’t my first rodeo with intakes, throttle bodies, and fuel rails.  Just be careful with what you are trying to do.
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